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25Oct/112

My Import Story, Part 2

So, last week I talked about how to start importing a car, which really just starts with the dream of importing a car. This week, we move in to the real details.

Know somebody that knows somebody

I was lucky enough to know a few people that imported their cars, and they coached me on who to choose for an auction agent. Now, there's a lot of options here. Each auction agent runs their business a little differently, charging for different things. Also, some of the auction agents maybe aren't so hot at speaking/typing/communicating in English.

For instance, J-cars charges for rates for each car you bid on, charges an inspection fee, charges for inland freight (that's moving the car from the auction to the boat). This type of setup is quite confusing, but you only pay for what you use... so it could be cheaper to go this route.

Brave Auto's Banner

I used Brave Auto International. The Director, Mark, is on jdmvip, ivoac and is.... British (I think)! I looked over a couple of options, and reviews of a few places... and Mark seems to run a tight ship, and really know what he's talking about. Note that I'm not getting paid to say this. Mark only does 'CIF' bidding (cargo, insurance, freight). Which brings us to the next point.

Know what you're paying for

I just said Brave Auto does CIF bidding... what that means is that 'everything' is included in your bid. So the bidding at Brave Auto includes:

  1. Buying the car
  2. Moving it to his shop (inland freight included)
  3. Having him look it over and send you ~100 photos
  4. Cleaning fee (no dirt allowed into Canada... if your car is dirty, they'll send it back!)
  5. Insurance on the boat
  6. Stuffing fee (putting it into a container... not as easy as you'd think)
  7. Pay the boat to actually take the car

You don't need to pay a bidding fee per car, but you also don't get to see EXACTLY how much you pay for the car. This is good and bad. Mark is not going to rip you off, but it's unclear how much you pay for what.

On the plus side, Mark tells you what he thinks of a car... without mincing words. Mark DOES NOT buy crap for you... this is worth a lot in the long run.

Also, Mark ships the cars he buys in his own containers.... not RO/RO (roll on/roll off). This means your car is safer from theft of your car, or stuff in your car.... or parts. Shipping is a thing of it's own... we'll get to that later.

Not all auction agents bid or ship this way. Some agents you will tell the bid for the car, then they'll charge you inland freight (moving the car to the boat), stuffing fees, insurance fees and cargo fees (that's paying the boat to take your car). This is fine, but you NEED to know what services are included before you just go and bid on a car.

Pay the man!

There's a lot of interest in cars, especially in importing really nice cars. All the bidding places are hammered with 14-year-olds with $100 that want to buy an R34 Skyline. The bidding agents need to know if you're serious. That's why all of them ask for a deposit. Usually the deposit is about $1000, but might be more if you're bidding on a seriously expensive car.

Know what you're bidding on!

Sample Datasheet for Japanese Auctions

The auction sheets are in Japanese.... not super useful if you don't speak Japanese.

There's still a lot of information you can glean from the datasheet, despite the fact you can't _actually_ read what it says.

There's more details here on this... and will probably be more later, as this is a HUGE part of the auction process.

Bidding Starto!

That might be 'bidingu starto'. Which is the broadcasted over the intercom in the actual auction houses.

Each auction is about.... a minute. So what you need to do is tell your auction agent what your MAXIMUM bid will be BEFORE the auction starts. Most ask for it hours in advance so they don't have to constantly be checking their email all day for last minute bids.

Remember to bid knowing what your auction fees will be. I always bidded CIF, so the amount I said would be the total amount I'd be paying to get it to the border in Vancouver. You may or may not have to pay more fees on top of this. Make SURE you know how much you're spending before you sign up to pay it.

When it's done, it's done

So, you've bid on a car and won! It's yours now. You're on the hook for the money. If you back out now, your auction agent is stuck with the car... and will be VERY grumpy. They can, of course, put it back on the auction and sell it... but they sure don't want to have to do that.

Next week... after you win!

rob

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  1. Nice site. I would love to get a GTR! I have an article on Importing cars to Canada from the US that may be of interest to your readers. A lot of the points are the same except obviously cars from Japan have to be 15 years or older and are not required to enter the RIV program.
    As a customs officer I do see commercial importations of Japanese cars, but what I’ve always wondered is how people maintain them. Unless you know your way around cars this can’t be easy. Any thoughts or advice? I think thats whats stopping me from doing it.

    CI

  2. The maintenance of a right hand drive is… well… depends!
    If you get a Civic Type R with a JDM motor… most of the parts will just work, or be available. If you get a Mitsuoka Le Seyde (google it…), you’ll be in for a different experience. The GTR has a great community, and lots of the parts swap from Maximas or other Nissans.
    Honestly, I’ve had a minitruck, which was never ever ever sold here, and I didn’t really have an issue.

    There are parts that are harder to get (right-hand drive dashboards come to mind), but you can always ship them in from England or Japan.

    Overall, it can take more research, but it’s worth it!


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